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Postby Clevo on Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:15 pm

The local Supercheap is now stocking 3M paints in place of the Septone paints.

Has anyone used 3M Thinners and Primers ? Are they any good ?

At a guess 3M have bought out Septone and has re-branded there products. The product range and descriptions on the cans seems exactly the same as Septone's gear.

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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby fc427 on Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:03 pm

[quote="Clevo"]The local Supercheap is now stocking 3M paints in place of the Septone paints.

Has anyone used 3M Thinners and Primers ? Are they any good ?

At a guess 3M have bought out Septone and has re-branded there products. The product range and descriptions on the cans seems exactly the same as Septone's gear.

Cheers

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Postby bages on Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:49 am

dunno what anyone here thinks of K&H paint products but I know a few things like their filler and rust inhibitors are actually sourced from 3M. Supercheaps main competitor stock K&H gear..........I guess now there is even less difference, but may help keep prices low.....
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Postby santa28a on Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:35 pm

3M owns both K&H and Meguirs, 3M has owned K&H for about 3 years now and bought meguirs in Sept 2008.
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Postby adventurekel on Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:59 pm

ok.. words from the insider here.

The 3M branded paint is manufactured in the K&H plant, and is the same K&H paint as sold in any other paint retailer. An exclusive deal has been done with Supercheap to sell under the 3M name for a specified period of time. 3M bought all store stock of Septone paint, not the Septone company (they will probably crush the Septone stock). The Septone companyis still Australian owned and made, and still trading strong. Cleaning products and industrial chemicals are their main business, and the lost of a large retail market is no huge loss for them. Check their website to locate a supplier if which to still shop Australian for paints.

The 'Motospray' paint as used to be carried by supercheap is in fact the exact same paint now carried under the 'Australian Export' brand. The brands 'Motospray', 'Export', 'Series 500'and others are all logos the MMP Industrial company manufactures under. The buyer (in this case, Supercheap) specifies what 'brand' they want the can to say. They will also manufacture under custom brands, which is what Autobarn and Auto-One do with their 'own' brands of paint.

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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Blackadder on Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:08 pm

Sorry to dig up an old thread.

Is the 3M paint any good? I didn't quite get the answer from the above replies.

Would you paint your car with their product?

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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Toddc on Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:02 pm

I bought 2 different cans of black 3M acrylic lacquer from Supersheep when they first started to stock it. One can was great, the other was rubbish.....

For the time involved in doing proper prep, I wouldn't risk using it on a whole car.
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby wardy on Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:53 am

i agree with toddc
u get what u pay for id prefer to pay a couple of extra bucks and go get some quality paint from paint and panel supplier like autolac here in cardiff,newcastle
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Anon1 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:07 pm

Septone got kicked out of super cheap auto and 3M took over under the condition they buy all the remaining stock off the shelf. 3M purchased K&H to get recognition with a well known brand name in Aus paint industry. After the big fire they had all paint production was outsourced to Sydney to a company called Omega International Coatings, turns out this is the same company that was manufacturing the paints for Septone.

So really, i assume the paint products are the same just in different cans as the manufacturer is the same.
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Lamo on Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:41 am

Anon1 wrote:So really, i assume the paint products are the same just in different cans as the manufacturer is the same.


They are definately not the same. The 3M etch primer and surface primer are totally different to Septone. I actually prefer the Septone primer - flows really well with 1.8 tip and seams to 'thicken up' when drying making it easier/better to sand.

The 3M Etch Primer is VERY similar to the K&H brand. Really sh!tty to sand, not that it really needs it. Goes on a bit too thin for my liking.
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Anon1 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:10 pm

Omega International Coatings is the manufacturer for all of these paints anyway !

Im sure they have more than one formula specified under different brands. Therefore one product they make for 3M and one product they make for Septone. Word is 3M is pulling out completely and Septone is coming back in.
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Toddc on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:35 am

Anon1 wrote:Omega International Coatings is the manufacturer for all of these paints anyway !

Im sure they have more than one formula specified under different brands. Therefore one product they make for 3M and one product they make for Septone. Word is 3M is pulling out completely and Septone is coming back in.


Might be the same manufacturer, but they certainly are different formulas. If they would produce a paint that's mid way between the two it would be a much better product all round.
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby Anon1 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:46 am

Well people are now jumping over the brand names and buying the same products from omega international as they are the manufacturer for all these companies lol...

Ive used Omega Bumper Coat and 3M bumper coat, the only difference was the brand name and oh yeah i saved about 50 bucks !
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby compact on Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:14 pm

goota say i like ppg.....easy to use and hardeners swap over on somep products....i dont bother with the cheaper stuff....i always worry about all this work and later down the track having to do it again
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Re: 3M Paint.

Postby slightlydangerous on Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:29 pm

Once a panel beater - painter ... ALWAYS ... a panel beater - painter :wink:

ive been out the trade for about 10 yrs . i did my apprenticeship using Dulon and their volume tinting system , but always used Spartan paint at home

as they were around the corner on Hanson rd :wink: :D

i believe spartan got bought out by Wattle .

at home i used Spartan wildfire super x for custom work and C.O.B or diamond clear . what compares with their super x colour and clear these days .

ive looked at house of colour and spray chief . But their colours just dont cut the mustard :wink:

i still dapple with homies using protect ( coz it's cheap )

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