windsor starter motor question

[lucky_damo]

This starter is supposed to fit my 302 windsor v8 but the mark on the tape is where it hits the flex plate. Its an auto with 157 tooth flex plate. any ideas ?

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[monte]

Is there a difference between a manual box one and an auto ,I fitted an early C4 and a 157 flex plate to my cleveland and used one of those small starters ,all fitted perfect

[lucky_damo]

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this is the starter as i have very little room. not sure about the difference between auto and manual starters. bought this at a swap so ripped off again.

[jailbar joe]

in the days of xr/xy the starter for a manual car was the same as for an auto...BUT... you needed a factory spacer to use it in a manual....
from memory i think it spaced it out about 3/8 of an inch........yep....i got caught....one brand new starter down the drain

[46 deluxe]

Were you actually able to bolt it up , or did the flywheel/starter not allow this ?
You may have the wrong sandwich plate between eng and trans ?

[lucky_damo]

no couldn't bolt it up, it came close but couldn't line the bolt holes up.

[Greg N Smith]

Have you counted the teeth on the flywheel to confirm it is 157 ?

I think they came in 157 and 164

Good Luck

[lucky_damo]

yep definitely 157 its brand new. i bought the starter at a swap, the guy said it was for a ford v8 but who knows

[46 deluxe]

Tooth count on the flex plate doesn't matter to the starter .
But you must have the correct bellhousing and sandwich plate to suit the flexplate .

[FRANK BASILE]

If the bolt holes did not line up for starters [excuse pun] ,the starter might be for some other application . If it was intended for the particular application this should not even been an issue . Fyi A Clevo starter will fit older 289/302 Windsors . Re jig the wiring to cater for the on starter solenoid . Currently one is still in use after 10 years with no problems . Required drilling out the thread on one of the bell housing attaching holes .

[deuce32]

Might this solve your problem?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FORD-WINDSOR ... SwPYZU6-ii

[FRANK BASILE]

Might this solve your problem?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FORD-WINDSOR ... SwPYZU6-ii

Thanks for that . I have a Clevo starter in a 66 Mustang Coupe that is auto . Also have a 66 Manual Stang still with the original starter . And of course a Clevo starter waiting in the wings for this once the original gives up the ghost .
Any clues as to identifying the different starters ? Manual/Auto

[jailbar joe]

frank i'm sure the starters are the same...just need to use the spacer

[46 deluxe]

frank i'm sure the starters are the same...just need to use the spacer

Pretty sure Joe is correct .

[FRANK BASILE]

Thanks Joe and Scott . I guess this is due to the manual flywheel and drive plate for the auto having the ring gear in a different position for/aft with regard to the bell housing/block mating surfaces ? .