ford 9" handbrake cable question
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ford 9" handbrake cable question
can someone shed some light on this handbrake actuator lever, what type of cable/ clevis end is required ?
i've not come across this type before normally a barrel end or clevis hook .
any info appreciated.
cheers Andy
i've not come across this type before normally a barrel end or clevis hook .
any info appreciated.
cheers Andy
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Looks like the cable should come in the other way ,is the lever wrong way around
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Hi Monte always thought the cable came in from the front of the drum?monte wrote:Looks like the cable should come in the other way ,is the lever wrong way around
Have i screwed up.....
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
x 2 the cable does come in from the frontmonte wrote:Looks like the cable should come in the other way ,is the lever wrong way around
Then it hooks to the leaver in your pick (which should be on the rear shoe) but the way you have it the when you pull the hand brake on the cable will pull out of the leaver.
The ball part on the cable needs to be on the other side of the fork - likely you have the left hand side leaver on the right hand side wheel or
you have the leaver anchored on the outside of the rear shoe and it needs to be on the inside (or visa versa)
Either way you need to wind up with the fork turned around 180 degrees so the cable does not fall out when you pull on the hand brake.
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Thanks Jeff the brakes are set up exactly how they we’re supplied. Ive not altered them in any wayJeff Hitchins wrote:x 2 the cable does come in from the frontmonte wrote:Looks like the cable should come in the other way ,is the lever wrong way around
Then it hooks to the leaver in your pick (which should be on the rear shoe) but the way you have it the when you pull the hand brake on the cable will pull out of the leaver.
The ball part on the cable needs to be on the other side of the fork - likely you have the left hand side leaver on the right hand side wheel or
you have the leaver anchored on the outside of the rear shoe and it needs to be on the inside (or visa versa)
Either way you need to wind up with the fork turned around 180 degrees so the cable does not fall out when you pull on the hand brake.
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Now that's interesting
Rather than rely on memory I have just checked my old ford manual and
The hole in the backing plate where the cable comes through should be at the front - so cable come in from the front
The actuating leaver that the cable hooks to should be on the rear shoe
and the "forks" where the cable connects to the actuating leaver should be facing the rear - so they hold the cable in when the handbrake is operated
If that isn't what you have then perhaps talk to your supplier
If you can just take off and change the actuating leaver then I think that is going to solve your issue
Rather than rely on memory I have just checked my old ford manual and
The hole in the backing plate where the cable comes through should be at the front - so cable come in from the front
The actuating leaver that the cable hooks to should be on the rear shoe
and the "forks" where the cable connects to the actuating leaver should be facing the rear - so they hold the cable in when the handbrake is operated
If that isn't what you have then perhaps talk to your supplier
If you can just take off and change the actuating leaver then I think that is going to solve your issue
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Yep all good with your memory and mine upto the forks facing the wrong way.....lefts on right and rights on left me thinks..will investigate tomorrow....just thought i was having a altzimers moments...i get a few lately...Jeff Hitchins wrote:Now that's interesting
Rather than rely on memory I have just checked my old ford manual and
The hole in the backing plate where the cable comes through should be at the front - so cable come in from the front
The actuating leaver that the cable hooks to should be on the rear shoe
and the "forks" where the cable connects to the actuating leaver should be facing the rear - so they hold the cable in when the handbrake is operated
If that isn't what you have then perhaps talk to your supplier
If you can just take off and change the actuating leaver then I think that is going to solve your issue
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
No expert here Andy...not by a long shot. But common sense tells me it's arse about. Under tension the cable end has to lock into place, not slip off the fork mount.
At least that's how I'd be planning it.
Cheers, Mudgy
At least that's how I'd be planning it.
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Jeff has got it spot on with his explanation, levers are around wrong way (or wrong side) the lever should also actuate the self adjuster cable when the hand brake is applied.
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
As per everyone else Andy ,it is back to front .
Someone has screwed up assembly ?. Look at one side of the set up . The rear shoe should have the longer linings . That lever should be sitting behind the shoe on a pivot . With the lower part of the lever configured so the cable is able to hooked in the way all have suggested.
You need to check each trailing shoe to make sure that lever is correctly fitted . It is replaceable when you fit new linings . The pivot pin is fitted from the rear [lever side] and is held in place by a horse shoe shaped retainer that is a squeeze lock in fit to a groove in the pin. Looking at the cable it looks like the coil spring that slides over the cable from the backing plate clip to that end piece is missing .This spring is peeled back under tension when you hook the cable end into the lever and helps hold it. Do you have photos of the brake assembly ? Might be something missing also that we can spot for you .
Someone has screwed up assembly ?. Look at one side of the set up . The rear shoe should have the longer linings . That lever should be sitting behind the shoe on a pivot . With the lower part of the lever configured so the cable is able to hooked in the way all have suggested.
You need to check each trailing shoe to make sure that lever is correctly fitted . It is replaceable when you fit new linings . The pivot pin is fitted from the rear [lever side] and is held in place by a horse shoe shaped retainer that is a squeeze lock in fit to a groove in the pin. Looking at the cable it looks like the coil spring that slides over the cable from the backing plate clip to that end piece is missing .This spring is peeled back under tension when you hook the cable end into the lever and helps hold it. Do you have photos of the brake assembly ? Might be something missing also that we can spot for you .
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
I was trying to say the cable needs to fit into the lever the other way so the lever is wrong way around but the experts have explained it much better
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Need a better shot Andy . When I mentioned the spring encapsulating the cable missing ,I went back to your picture and looked more carefully .I must have had a "seniors moment" The cable is configured correctly . That particular shoe is a left hand side rear brake shoe .
Another photo will make more sense by turning the shoe 180 degrees with the shoe on the RH side and the cable heading left of picture, the lever should be sitting behind the shoe .. That "end cap" of the cable does not slip off ,it becomes sandwiched by the tension of the spring sleeve that is missing .
Another photo will make more sense by turning the shoe 180 degrees with the shoe on the RH side and the cable heading left of picture, the lever should be sitting behind the shoe .. That "end cap" of the cable does not slip off ,it becomes sandwiched by the tension of the spring sleeve that is missing .
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Thanks guys was a bit tongue in cheek.....a little stab at the supplier for mixing it up a bit....but did have me thinking for awhile......it was your comments and quick responses that confirmed what i thought left on right and visa versa...seems every repo part ive bought needs works or something important is missing......piont in fact the handbrake/emergency cable is from wilwood and dosnt have the return springs ( the bit thats sit inside the drum on the inner cable) anyone give me a part no or supplier for them
Cheers Andy
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
nope thats not going to work somethings wrong....
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Re: ford 9" handbrake cable question
Yep wrong Andy .
First up make sure that you have the shoes with the longer linings.
The levers are fitted to the shoe on the backing plate side or rear with the pin inserted from the lever side and the "crimped horseshoe" on the brake shoe side . The lower end "tangs" for the cable face to the backing plate
First up make sure that you have the shoes with the longer linings.
The levers are fitted to the shoe on the backing plate side or rear with the pin inserted from the lever side and the "crimped horseshoe" on the brake shoe side . The lower end "tangs" for the cable face to the backing plate
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